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I'm curious about your referencing your conversation with your European guest who said, “I can never get my head around the idea that there are so many young people in China who are okay with this. For me, to work is not just for money. Working provides a sense of meaning. So it is scary to me when this sense of meaning is lost.“.

I don't think you intended to suggest that tanping in a uniquely Chinese phenomenon, but I do think it is worthwhile pointing out that across Europe and England where there have been state provided social handouts for decades, this has been a real phenomenon since the 1960s and '70s. I'm a little surprised your European guest did not reference this group of people in his own country.

This is because I've had conversations with persons in England who work with unemployed young persons, and there is definitely a non-negligible cohort of young people in England who are quite happy to engage in their own version of tanping, relying on state handouts to get by. I personally know one young man in England who prefers to focus on his own hobbies and not work at all, living off a stipend from the state.

It seems to me that the main difference between those in Europe and England and those in China is the source of their funds: one receives stipends from the state, the other receives stipends from their indulgent parents. To the extent that young persons from families with money to maintain them have always been able to tanping, this is not really different in kind from trust fund kids. And China has had no shortage of those pampered sons in the past.

So, I would like to pose the question to you: Do you think that there is something about this tanping phenomenon that is unique to China in this time (as compared to other countries, and as compared to other times), and if so, what is it about the tanping movement that makes it uniquely different from what we have seen in England and Europe? My own bias is to think that there isn't, but you are far closer to what is happening in China than I am.

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